Death by deception

What is up with these recycled shows they call "New"???   I've seen this show and so many others they call new shows.  I'm a huge fan of Dateline, but I'm fed up, and don't trust anymore when they say it's a new show.

I am a writer working on a book about this case. If there is anyone who knew James or Julie and would like to speak about the case, please contact me at larabricker AT hotmail.com

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So did anyone find something even more disturbing in this story? How about how this woman was killed.. with ethylene glycol !! Why are so many people so ignorant to the fact that companies put this crap in food, hair products, lotion, toothepaste etc..  all the stuff you and your kids use daily...  AND the "fda" approves it?? It doesn't matter the quantity, if it's a poison it shouldn't be used used in anything that we put on us, eat, drink, breathe etc. It's used in many forms but anything with "ehtyl" or "glycol" anywhere in it's name is poison..  propylene glycol, methyl propol-, methyl paraben, acetate etc. And we wonder why we have so many "diseases" these days.. and health problems that can't be cured.. but that just allows doctors to just write off multiple prescriptions for the meds they get kickbacks on..  oh wait, theres propylene glycol in some drugs too.

How can I help make better laws against having antifreeze so available or contact producers of the antifreeze so they will change the taste of it so it will be almost impossible to digest? 

Can someone tell me what the definition of reasonable doubt is?  All the jurors they interviewed, and even her mother admitted that it was possible that she committed suicide.  And, yet they still convicted him of murder.  The fact that they all admitted that it was possible that she committed suicide is by definition reasonable doubt.  I'm not saying that she committed suicide or he killed her.  Based on what I saw I don't think there was enough evidence to decide either way.  So much for the "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" mentality.

good story the only problem I have is

thinking he maybe innocent, I think she commited suicide

I just have a problem with the search of posion on his computer two weeks before she dies

My brother Steve Bonifer was murdered the same way and by his wife of 30 years, not even 10 months ago. This is still an ongoing case and I pray this show tonight helps the prosecuting attorney. It has certainly given us hope as a family that we stand a chance of putting his wife away for good. I pray that Julie Keown's parents find peace, and so glad they are fighting for laws to make antifreeze taste bitter. Our loved ones are in a better place now, but their spouses who took their lives do not deserve one ounce of peace or happiness.

I am currently working a case with similarities.  It involves an elderly man who may have been poisoned with ethylene glycol by his care taker who is also a senior citizen.  What I have read about this type of poisoning is that ethylene glycol can cause depression.  What is also unfortunate is that I believe that this type of poisoning is going on more than anyone realizes.  Usually by the time it's detected it too late. 

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so she committed suicide? why would she chose slow painful that lasted for so long, put herself through that kind of pain rather than a much quicker, painless way? Maybe she thought it would be quick? No, If SHE was the one who did the research on his computer then she would have known that wasn't the case and chosen a way to make it quick. On the flip side, he's the only one with the motivation to use a slow method like that... possibly trying to cover it up and avoid being convicted..

Ethylene glycol and all forms of it are used in so many products we put in and on our bodies.. go to your bathroom.. look at the ingredients on the bottle..  look at the labels on the candy you give your kids.. look at your shampoo.. do some research. There are so many toxic substances like this in most products out there. Ethylene glycol and propylene glycol are clear liquids used in antifreeze, deicing solutions and automotive antifreeze. Go to and read the ingredients list. Look at the very last sentence then go to this link and read:

• As a products
• In to make the produced vapor better resemble cigarette smoke
• As a medical and sexual ")
• As an
• As a
• As a E1520
• As a cooling agent for glycol jacketed fermentation tanks
• As a carrier in
• As a less-
• As a used in mixing photographic chemicals, such as film developers
• In productions
• In hand sanitizers,
• In
• As a working fluid in hydraulic presses
• As a in liquid cooling systems
• To regulate humidity in a cigar
• As the killing and preserving agent in pitfall traps, usually used to capture
• To treat livestock
• As the main ingredient in sticks.
• To aircraft

There is one website that says.. 'Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol is (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive.'        Wait..  how did this woman die again?

Two things:

1.  The most damning evidence against the husband is that it took him 10 hours to get his wife to the Emergency room.

2.  Who would  commit suicide by anti-freeze?  NO one.

Her mother did admit that suicide was a possibility...BUT..when the searces on teh computers were looked at...on hers, it was all about finding and looking at causes of kidkeny problems..of extensively looking at what it could be. That is not what one would be doing if one was committing suicide..and this suicide was something that was happening over time as opposed to just one ingestion. That to me is one of teeh biggest problems with the suicide possibility...THAT  doesn't make any sense.    Also, Keown's comments about possibly finding a bottle of Gatorade that just happened to be laced with antifreeze..how preposterous is that? Again..the posioning is one that took place over months and just suggesting she found that at a neighbors is pretty silly..what did she wander off and find that every day??  More of the lies of him.  I really wonder if this does not happen more often..and certainly laws need to be changed so that there is some bitter agent in antifreeze so this can not happen.

: Can someone tell me what the definition of reasonable doubt is?...

Steve, the wife's mother and maybe some of the jurors thought it was possible given her state of mind that she may have contemplated suicide. But that is much different than thinking her actual death was a result of suicide. The bottom line is they looked at the facts of the case and determined it was muder. Does someone who wants to kill themselves search for ways to do it on their husband's computer while simultaneously searching for ways to live on their own? Do they choose such a slow excruciatingly painful method?  Not to metion plenty of other things pointing to the husband. I fear jurors like you because you don't understand reasonable doubt. If you think there was reasonable doubt in this case, by your standards 99% of criminals would be acquitted.

Does anyone know the name of the piano song that played throughout this episode? I recognize it from a movie soundtrack but can't for the life of me remember which one.

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Wasn't she a nurse? Wouldn't she have found a quick and painless way to commit suicide, if that was her intention?

Also, does anyone know the name of the judge?

When someone puts this in a drink and you do not know about it, do you start throwing up, etc ?  If you get ill, usually on a week-end or during a vacation when the people at  work would not know that you were having bouts of throwing up on week-ends, could this be happening?  Could you be poisoned occasionally to make your kidneys shrink in a long term situation of having been poisoned?  What can you do?  If you get extremely ill would a doctor know if you had the flu or if you were poisoned?  Or do they just give you shot to keep you from throwing up and send you home again?  Because he moved her away from all of her family and friends and went to Boston so she had no contact with them, could she have been getting sick and they just didn't know....

There is a very rare inherited disease in which the body produces its own antifreeze--and it reaches toxic/fatal levels eventually. I suggest that the victims parents undergo a genetic test to see if they carry that rare gene. If they both possess the gene, the victim probably died of natural causes--she might have gotten a 'double dose' of that mutant gene!

Do you throw-up and feel sick when you take anti-freeze in small amounts?  If you are given anti-freeze on week-ends and when on vacations and you have flu like symptons would one know they are being poisoned?  You aren't missed at work - you have no sick days as you've been sick on week-ends all of the time - If you went to the doctor when you were so sick would he tell you that you have the flu and just give you a shot to stop you from heaving any more and send you home - or would he test for this poisoning in your system?  As you went for months/years being sick occasionally on week-ends when you had no plans with outher people would your kidney begin to shrink from the abouse?  Would you not know you had this shrinkage until it got bad?  This man isoated her from her family and friends by moving to Boston so that she probably didn't have the day to day discussions she did when she lived in the same area as they did...

I've never done this before - testing only - 

If you are poisoned by anti-freeze do you throw-up and have flu-like symptoms?  How would you know you have been poinsed on and off for the last few years shrinking your kidneys in the process every time  a person had a chance to put something into your drink?  It's so easy for someone to put something into your drink and you have no idea it's happened.  What if she got sick on week-end and vacations when no one she worked with would know - her sick days at work hadn't been touched that much...  Why did he take her away to Boston - away from her family and friends...so she'd be isolated there?

SteveC...I think logic is something you have missed entirely in what I said.  But that is OK.  It makes NO sense to me at all and to MANY people....This woman was looking into why there were kidney problems..about medications trying to find answers..to tru and SOLVE a medical problem.. THAT Steve is NOT something someone who is trying to kill themselves would be doing. Again..you miss the fact that this "poisoning" is not just one simple inhestion...but done over a long period of time. If it was a suicide..why would she be looking and seaching for answers about her condition?? If she were posioning herself she would KNOW that, wouldn't she?? Sorry THAT makes absolutely no sense at all. If she was trying to commit suicide there would have been no searches for possible side effects of medication, for trying to find out what was wrong with herself, nothing at all like that.  So if she were posioning herself...all the searches and e-mails related to her trying to find out what was wtong with herself make ZERO sense...in other words VERY much not possible at all...which I believe was why the jury threw out ANY thought of her committing suicide.  As to Keown's talking about her wife and POSSIBLY finding and drinking a tainted Gatorade with antifreeze bottle...THAt is simpley ridiculoius. A person drinking from ONE bottle ONE time is would NOT cause the poisoning...it has to be done over a period of time with ingestion happening ay many points. Aall that was Mt Keown trying to give false theories to get the attention away from him.  By the way, I doubt it was anything close to a hunch that this jury convicted Mt Keown..the peoblem is with the computer evidence and trying to make sense out if it all. Who looked uyp the poisons? Why? If it was her, then why all the e-mails and searchs trying to find out what is wrong? There was testimony that her husband had told her on many occasions to drink the Gatorade. I think that is quite obvious.  There are many that are convicted on skimpy evidence..but this is hardly one of those cases.  Was it an accident? No..because the poisoning was over time, that would not at all be possible and also the compyter evidence of looking up about poisons. Suicide? Again...one who would commit suicide over time like that would not at the same time be trying to find out what was wrong with herself, look up information on kidney disease etc etc. So..that leaves only the possibility of murder.   Lulu..The judge was Sandra Hamlin.  To Dr Edelman..if you believe that that ight have been the case, I hope you would contact Keown's defense attorneys.

The evidence of suicide was strong? What on earth are you nasing that upon?  It was more than searches on the computer but also e-mails that she sent and that I believe says a lot about her state of mind.  You have in no way made ANY explanation as to why someone would be commting suicide over time and at the same time wonder what was wrong with searches and e-mails and the like. There is no logic at all there..and THAT is the reason it was deemed NOT possible. If you shoot yourself in the foot..you would not be wondering why all of a sudden you are getting pains in your foot would you?? That is akin to what you wish to believe in your suicide possibiliy.  I agree the mind does a lot of odd things..but you are now bringing a LOT of things into discussion that are pure fantasy..insurance..bipolar disese..do you NOT think if any of these were in play that the dfefense would have brought them up?? You are missing that the poisoning would have gone on for a period of time...and that THAT does not in anyway jibe with a conntinued looking and searching for dara and e-mails over time. If she had shot herself or tried to commit suicide, your argument would make a bit more sense, but with a longer time frame for it, that makes it not logical or possible. But then again, you might be the one who would say there is someone who would shoot themselves in the foot and wonder why they have pain. That is the logic that would have to be overcome to think it at all possible it was a suicide. It doesn't even come close. She also was a nurse and was quite familiar with the medical world and anatomy.Why would she be tracking records of how she felt over time and doing extensive research into her condition if she was causing it with poison?  Maybe you want a Law and Order moment in the courts..rarely happens. I agree totally about being sure of guilt before a life sentence or the death penalty, but you are stretching logic and reason here. What possible evidence could become available? About the only thing that could PROVE his innocence would be if they found a suicide note...but that I think that has a snowball's chance in July of happening.